[FFXIV] Retiring the monk’s gloves

Rakuno cryingI am not sure if this will be of interest to anyone but I figured out I might as well write about it anyway. Maybe it will lead to some interesting discussion. If not then it will serve as explanation of why Rakuno as a monk won't be showing up in screenshots so much in the future.

The choice to make Pugilist/Monk as a main was one that I made pretty much before I even started playing Final Fantasy XIV. It is just that I tend to be attracted in games to whatever class feels fun and different and monks tend to be pretty rare in MMORPGs or at least they used to be.

While I have been trying to clear dungeons through the Stormblood patches to keep up with the story and gear up I've been growing increasingly dissatisfied with my performance playing as a monk.

There is a lot to keep up with with that Job: the positionals, keeping up the greased lightning,  stunning mobs so they don't AOE and if the tank is a warrior keeping an eye on their TP bar to goad them. Not to mention the usual keeping out of AOEs and that the way people play dungeons it is just more efficient to have a Job with a lot of AOEs to help clear the trash mobs faster. AOEs are unfortunately not an area Monks are strong at.

Don't get me wrong I am not saying there is anything particularly wrong with the Job or that it needs changes. I think it is fine as it is. What I am saying is that I am terrible at playing one and that is where my insatisfaction is coming  from.

I also noticed that I seem to perform far better with a ranged Job. It is just easier for me to see what is going on in the battle and react appropriately.

With this in mind I am considering switching to a ranged Job for a main. I am just not sure which one yet. I might just temporarily go with Red Mage since it is 1) Fun 2) Already at level 70 3) Can start gearing up immediately.

Rakuno posing with the level 70 Red Mage gearThe other candidate is Machinist since it is level 66 at the time of this writing. I'd consider Bard too but it is still level 32 or around there and I doubt I'd be able to get it to level 70 and gear it up before Shadowbringer is released. But it is definitely one choice I am considering for the long term.

Black Mage I haven't unlocked yet and since I am not a fan of casters in general (Red Mage being the exception) it is unlikely I will consider it as a main Job. Dancer is a Job I will unlock when Shadowbringer releases too but so far I don't see anything that makes me crazy about it. But if it proves to be fun I will consider it as well.

Also, whichever Job I end up switching to for my "main" one doesn't mean I will never play Monk again. I still love it. I just will be leveling it as an alt Job and not invest as much time and effort into it as I've been doing so far.

For now I am just glad that we can unlock every Class/Jobs in one character in Final Fantasy XIV. That means I don't have to lose all the progress I made with Rakuno so far.

11 thoughts on “[FFXIV] Retiring the monk’s gloves

  1. Naithin

    I'm *turrible* at classes that require shifting of positions a lot to do damage. Rogue and Feral Druid in WoW key examples of classes I avoid at the top end of play. So I very much feel this, and when I was looking at classes for FFXIV a little while ago, one of the main ones I discounted Monk fairly quickly.

    I was coming to it cold which you're not, but LarryZaur's vid is what helped me make a call: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwQf6H7ESo4

    🙂

    1. Rakuno

      Personally I don't mind the positionals much as I prefer to have a more active DPS class than just having to worry about my rotations. I guess my issue is more that I don't feel like I am doing as much DPS as I should be doing and have the expectation that I should stun mobs to prevent them from doing an AOE.That is easier said than done when there is a gazillion mobs, I have to figure out which one is doing it in a split second, target it and then use my skills to do it. Even more so when one of my AOEs is dependent on being in a certain stance to use. There is another skill that allows me to ignore stances to use my monk skills but that isn't very helpful it is on cooldown. :p

      I love LarryZaur's videos. They may be parodies but like all good parodies they is a lot of truth to them. XD

  2. Naithin

    This video was my intro to LarryZaur, I loved about the third top comment asking if he was OK after posting something actually informational. xD

    (Testing this comment from Chrome again, FF continued to fail.)

    1. Rakuno

      Yeah, the intro was pretty much par for the course for his videos then he started going into each of the individual Jobs and and it surprised me that it was actually informational. XD

      It is a nice introduction though to each of the Jobs, specially for someone who is starting on the game. 🙂

  3. pkudude99

    I'm with you -- I enjoy the idea behind the monk, but I'm terrible at actually executing it. I do okay with ninja, and fairly decent with dragoon, but monk? Nope....

  4. Rakuno

    I think what bums me out the most is I actually love the monk playstyle. But since I am feeling that my skills are up to it then it is better to play something else.

    As for the other jobs you mentioned, I got an alt to Ninja level 50 and found it pretty fun. Most of the time though I forget the order of the mudras though. XD

    Dragoon is another one which I struggle with. It seems straightforward enough but I always have the feeling I am not playing it to its full potential and I can't quite put my finger on why. Granted my Dragoon is still at around level 50-something. So I am sure there will still be a lot about it I have to learn and figure out.

  5. Nogamara

    Traditional (WoW and everything-)Rogue player here as well, I've been repeatedly told I should try Monk 😛 So far I've actually avoided even starting any non-tank melee job in this game, which is kind of new anyway... But everything you say doesn't really want to make me, kinda happy standing in the back, singing songs or healing 😛 Maybe at some time...

    1. Rakuno

      Honestly despite my frustrations I don't feel Monk is that bad. Again, it is that I feel my skills as a player aren't keeping up with the demands. And most of that are frustrations with the stun expectations and feeling like I am not pulling my weight as far as DPS goes.

      Also, I haven't played Rogue in WoW in forever (or got too far with them in or played them in any other MMO besides Final Fantasy XIV for that matter) but I wouldn't consider Monk to be the closest equivalent.Although it is more because of the feeling the Job gives, not because of any mechanical equivalence. Monk to me feels more about raw power and moving around the enemy for their positionals.

      The one that gives me the closest feeling to a Rogue would be... Ninja. It is just that they both feel like both Jobs that require a bit more thinking on how to approach a fight and how to maximize your DPS.

  6. bhagpuss

    I love that screenshot at the top, with the Ratonga monk and the Kerra. I never got on with Monk in EQ2 but I love Bruiser. I played a Bruiser for years on Test in a duo with Mrs Bhagpuss, usually playing one of her various scouts. Fun times with no heals to speak of and back in the day when much of what we did solo was group stuff.

    I liked the Bruiser because he tanked, though. And I loved Vanguard's martial art class, the Disciple, because it both tanked and healed. I don't really enjoy positional play, which is why I rarely play Scout/Rogue classes. Monk types can often tank or at least off-tank, though, which is a lot more fun.

  7. bhagpuss

    I love that screenshot at the top, with the Ratonga monk and the Kerra. I never got on with Monk in EQ2 but I love Bruiser. I played a Bruiser for years on Test in a duo with Mrs Bhagpuss, usually playing one of her various scouts. Fun times with no heals to speak of and back in the day when much of what we did solo was group stuff.

    I liked the Bruiser because he tanked, though. And I loved Vanguard's martial art class, the Disciple, because it both tanked and healed. I don't really enjoy positional play, which is why I rarely play Scout/Rogue classes. Monk types can often tank or at least off-tank, though, which is a lot more fun.

    (I also had to swap to Chrome to post. Firefox is being weird today).

    1. Rakuno

      Thanks! I miss my ratonga in Everquest 2 but my love for the game itself has been gone for a long time now.

      Monk was my main in Everquest 2 (after a period with a Shadow Knight as a main) but it was a pretty different beast than the on in FInal Fantasy XIV. In FFXIV monks are a DPS class, a pretty powerful one against single enemies too.

      I used to tank a lot in MMOs but nowadays I am preferring to be lazy and play as DPS. Much less stressful than tanks or healers.

      Sorry about the issues with Firefox. I was going to test some stuff today but the plugins I was going to test to try to find the errors I can't install right now due to this bug:

      https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Firefox-Add-Ons-Cert-Expired

      Out of curiosity what plugins are you using in Firefox, if any?

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